This is from a previous post of mine.
"Abortion is not actually about foetus viability, it's about a woman's right to determine whither she becomes a mother or not. I don't want to hear about foetus rights because as far as I am concerned the rights lie with the woman. I'm not sorry if this offends any one's sensibilities.
Please, bring on the irrational hate if you feel the need. It's not going to change my opinion.
Motherhood, parenthood in general, is far too important to be foisted on people. It's something that should be entered in to willingly, with an idea of the responsibilities that lie ahead and at least a vague plan of how you are going to navigate it. Plans change of course but you need an idea to start with. And the parents should, ideally, be in a good financial position, capable of providing for their offspring. You also need to be mentally mature and prepared enough to take responsibility for a small person who will need to rely on you for everything; food, shelter, and guidance among others. Children should be wanted, loved and cherished. They are too important to be anything else.
And don't tell me that women who have abortions don't use contraceptives so it's their own fault
they got pregnant. Hey stupid, no means of contraceptive is 100% effective, not even sterilisation. That fails in rare cases for unknown reasons. After that argument comes you shouldn't be having sex if you don't intend to reproduce.
Wahahahahahahahahahahahahah. 'Cause that's gonna happen. Folks, sex is just too much fun.
And on a more serious point, this line of argument seems to be mainly directed at women. I am not a baby factory, I will not be defined by my reproductive biology. For the fun of it let's imagine that rule applied to men. No man may have sex if he does not intend to father a child, and be an active parent to that child. 'Cause that would happen. Can't you just see it ?
Then you get the abortion is murder argument. Sorry folks it is not murder. Murder is a criminal offence, the unlawful and intentional killing of another human being. Abortion is legal not criminal. Abortion is the termination of pregnancy by inducing the expulsion of a foetus. Or if that's just too damn clinical for you it's the intentional killing of an unborn child. This fact is not debatable. That's why it's a fact. See ? No airy fairy skipping the uncomfortable points here.
To be honest I don't really think anyone does. I doubt having an abortion is something anyone takes lightly. There is a whole lot more to this subject but this is a post about the thoughts that the Scotsman article and the comments on it made me think."
Shout and scream at me as much as you like.
The only amendment I would make to this, having skimmed over it again, is that sex can be more than just fun. It can also be an expression of love between two people. If you choose not to experience that level of connection with another person, either purely physical, emotional even spiritual some times, then that is your right to choose. Do not attempt to push your ideas and choices on other people.
Tuesday, 5 February 2008
Incase There Is Any Doubt Where I stand On This Issue (See Image Below)
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Messy topic with many fringes that are hard to turn 'black and white'. Your thoughts on it are, of course, valid (not that you need me or anyone else to tell you that).
I know I don't have all the answers, but I have opinions that just happen to be dissimilar to yours.
Your right, I don't need anyone else to validate my opinion.
You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. However you opinion tries to limit the choices of women, myself included. You have a right to hold your opinion, not to force the consequences of it on others.
I don't see it as a choice (particularly when it comes to abortion as contraceptive), regardless of Roe v Wade. If they could somehow separate the child from the woman, THEN there would be a valid argument about her body, her choice.
Women force the consequence of their opinion on men by demanding support if they decide to have a child that the father doesn't want. Who stands up for the man's rights?
Ok, I can see where this is going and I didn't intend to debate or get you riled up.
Haha, you haven't riled me. It
would take a lot more than this.
The abortion as contraception argument strikes me as ludicrous. Rather than taking the pill, using a condom, getting the injection, or the implant, using the female condom or coil to prevent pregnancy, or the morning after pill, I'll just wait and see if I get pregnant, hope that I realise I am in time and then go through counselling, get two doctors to agree I need it for medical reasons, although they can take social reasons into account,(at least in the UK)and subject myself to an invasive procedure. So much easier. Of course you may know something I don't.
There is a valid argument for her body and rights precisely because you can't separate the child. For nine months the female body must provide for the unborn child. I have heard some women describe pregnancy as the most wonderful experience of their lives, and others as the worst. Around 70% of women experience morning sickness, usually ending by the second trimester but not always, and it's not always restricted to the morning. After this most, but not all, feel better, until the third trimester where back pain and a weakened bladder are two of the possible problems.There are more, all involving some level of pain or discomfort. The movement of the child can cause pain. Labour it's self may be painful and, despite advances, can still be dangerous. Many women require hours of surgery after birth.
I ask again, do you intent to force women to continue with pregnancies ?
As to the rights of the man, if he has no intention of fathering a child perhaps he should take some responsibility for contraception. There is even a male contraceptive that claims to be 100% effective.
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